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Archive for August, 2009

Framing, Week 1

Sunday, August 30th, 2009

The framing after the first week

We put protective sheeting on the garage floor

Made sure we were using FSC lumber! (This means your wood came from sustainably managed forests.)

Osbaldo Romero and his excellent crew arrived and really went to work for the first week of framing!!   Now the space is really starting to feel more like a house!  After the slab was poured, we were wandering around the downstairs floor saying “is this going to be too small??”  We were starting to wonder if in our zeal to build a “right sized” house, we were going to end up with something that felt too small when we were all done, but enclosing the space with the 10 ft walls paradoxically made the space feel larger…  it is funny how these things work.

The view into the wine cellar - it will be a tight space :-)

Ooops! Ouch! We spotted a couple bloody hand prints on the cross beams...

We’re excited to see how this continues in the next week.

Final Rough Slab

Sunday, August 30th, 2009

Here it is! The final rough slab ready for sill plates and framing. Now things should really start taking off!

After all the back and forth with the insulation underneath the slab, it still wasn’t clear if the insulation was going to be thin enough around the edges for the rebar to be embedded deeply enough in the concrete.  It was fine in the center, but still a little thick at the edges.  But the engineer and the city both came out to inspect, and gave us the green light to pour.  The radiant barrier was put down (at right), and the final rough slab, and the steps in the wine cellar were poured.

That is almost it for concrete.  After this, it is only the final color concrete with the radiant flooring to put down, but that will come during the finishing steps much later – now the framing lumber is starting to arrive!

And then it was juuust right

Sunday, August 16th, 2009

The final foam finish at the perfect height (the yellow color is from UV damage to the top layer of the otherwise green colored foam)

The next step was to put the insulation under the final portion of the slab to be poured.  The guys from Spray Foam Energy Solutions (SFES) came out to examine the site, and asked for landscaping fabric to be put down over the sand (on top of the vapor barrier that is in turn on top of all that compacted earth) so that when they sprayed the foam down, it wouldn’t blow the sand all over.  So Catherine spent a day neatening up the site and putting down fabric.

landscape fabric over the sand

When the guys from SFES came out, they initially sprayed the foam a bit thin.  Our general contractor called them up and said that we needed a full 2” of foam to get the R value we needed (reminding them that they had assured us they could keep to a tolerance of +/- 1/2” thick which we had thought was impressive when they said that given how much foam expands…), well… then after they had touched it up, the foam was too thick almost everywhere (see next pic)… and our topping slab was not going to be thick enough to satisfy the structural engineer.

The foam when it was too thick

So the SFES guys were out there on a Saturday morning with their dust masks, and this really nasty looking powered steel brush that scraped the high spots off, and they leveled the foam until it was juuuust right… that was a dusty, hot, nasty job, and I felt bad for the poor guys out there doing that, but I got to hand it to them, they came in on a Saturday and worked until they made it right, and now we have a high compression foam insulation layer ready to have the radiant barrier laid down on top, and the final rough slab pour.

The foam being used is a soy-based closed cell expanding polyurethane foam made by Demilec called Heatlok Soya. So what makes a polyurethane foam green, and is that really possible??  Well, I went out and completely stole the following discussion and picture from a not disinterested party www.sprayfoam.com:

Wire brushing the foam

Most all SPFs (Spray Polyurethane Foams) on the market contain sucrose or soy based content. There are different aspects to consider when discussing the “green-ness” of SPF as it pertains to the product’s composition. SPF is produced from the reaction of two components referred to in the industry as the A side and B side. While the A side is a petroleum based isocyanate, the ingredients that make up the B side will vary from product to product consisting of a blowing agent, fire retardants, surfactants, catalysts and polyols.

Material components of polyurethane foam

So what does this mean?  That there are still lots of petroleum products in the sprayfoam even when the manufacturers have maxed out the amount of recycled material or agricultural based oils that they can use in the product (found in the polyol part of the material), but because it is pretty much the best insulation out there, and the closed cell SPFs are the only insulation that will stand the weight of concrete above it… it seems like a good choice to make, as the petroleum use will be well outweighed by the energy savings of not pouring our heat into the ground.

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